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By Richard A. Fleetwood - May 2001


Originally Written on June 6th, 1999

This portion of SurvivalRing is for letting you, the ring visitor and/or member, know what is happening with SurvivalRing regarding ANY media coverage, for any reason. It is interesting that something as simple as a webring devoted to normal everyday people wanting to help OTHER people just like them prepare for future difficulties would draw the attention of ANY media, especially BIG media. What do I mean by big media? Time magazine, Life magazine, ABC/NBC/FOX news affiliates, FOX Files weekly news magazine, OVERSEAS news magazines....these and more.

WHY are we drawing attention, WITHOUT hyping ourselves in any way, shape, or form, other than word of mouth? Well, Y2k is very obviously a scary proposition to MUCH of the civilized world, including ALL levels of the U.S. community, from regular citizenry, to municipal levels in small and large cities, to state levels in all areas, to the Federal government to the point of SPECIAL hearings in the house and senate...even to the military...now doing ALL kinds of practice movements, programs, projects, and behind the scenes doomsday scenario escapades scaring the bejeezus of small towns and cities across the entire country, from Kingsville, Texas to Anniston Alabama to Pittsburgh, Pensylvania. ALL this attention to the simple three digit sequence of Y-two-Kay.

Y2k WILL have negative impact around the entire world. TO what degree, NO MAN KNOWS. Some level of planning and work BEFORE it hits is required to try to MITIGATE the possible effects that can hurt or affect so many. The search for information, products, news, communities, help, friendship, and comradery are what is bringing a LOT of people across this webring, thru many of the member sites.

Just this moment as I was typing this on a sunday morning at 10:16 am, I heard a building low pitched drone outside. It was so persistant, I thought a stranger was coming up our long driveway and had stopped halfway up. I got up and went outside to take a look from a clear perspective off the back porch, and the moment I opened the door, I knew it wasn't a car. The sound came from a flight of 5 black BlackHawk helicopters, on some sortie, flying from northwest to southeast, shadowing Interstate 20/59 between Birmingham and Tuscaloosa, Alabama. I heard them for a good 45 seconds before I saw the first one behind the trees a few miles south of my house, then one by one they appeared past the last tree in row in a clearing from my home's hilltop perspective. What were they doing? Some humanitarian training exercise? Transporting generals from Annistan to Montgomery? Moving Kosovoan refugees from New Jersey to New Orleans for the summer? Hauling trash to the dump? I don't know, and probably never will.

BUT the first thing I think of is training....training with some specific goal or end game in site. LAST fall, in a well publicized event, the MARINES held some URBAN TRAINING EXERCISES in the Birmingham, Alabama area. They used SEVERAL MARINE HELICOPTERS flying all over the metroplex, including the small suburb I deliver mail in. Two silver finish Chinooks, two COBRA GUNSHIPS, and a few others flew over the area, sometimes in wide sweeping turns, doing whatever they were doing for most of the day. The newspaper covered it, as did radio, and local tv news. Why here? and why now? And from what *I'VE* heard/seen/read/ the past few months, most all military training now is dealing with SOME aspect that may pop up in a Y2k scenario. I can NOT be the only person who sees these things building up. I KNOW I am not only one who can put small pieces of the y2k puzzle together from the scraps found in magazines, newpaper, tv, talk radio, online, and IN PERSON. I am just a simple man, a husband and father, a mailman for a small town. I somehow stumbled into this mix of Y2k hysteria thru MY INTEREST in saving peoples lives in severe storms, such as tornadoes and hurricanes, both of which I've had MORE then enough personal relationships with.

Here's an example. A GOOD friend of mine, who hit the big time regarding y2k, even getting his expert experience in an area mentioned on the king of y2k's web world, GARY NORTH'S website, sent out the latest of his updates on his read of the situation, the areas of concern, and the obvious BEHIND THE SCENES preparedness of (I will leave them unnamed at this point because I want to see what occurs) *A GOVERNMENT ENTITY*. This *ENTITY* had a website with what was a VERY precise, VERY in depth, and VERY disturbing picture of the ENTIRE Y2K situation...from rampup to midplay to endgame. In the email missive from my friend, he gave the website address. I immediately viewed it THEN. Yes, it was there, and yes, it was disturbing. An attempt an hour later to read more in depth after answering my email for the day produced ZILCH. The page was gone, the directory was gone...hell, the domain name *.*.*.MIL was NOT FOUND. No record, error 404, does not exist.

I thought what the hell? Another email came, this one referencing the same page, then in midmessage, HE was going to paste a piece of text and HE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM. IT HAD VANISHED. Another recipient of the message in question who had gone to THAT original site, had made a duplicate EXACTLY of that page. He had placed it in a site quickly set up on GEOCITIES. My friend, in the message stopped mid-message by the profound obvious thought of *INNER WORKINGS SOMEWHERE* doing what I will only classify as EVIL, by hiding what seems to be the truth FROM the people who provide the SWEAT and BLOOD money for them to protect us, sent a request out to all recipients of the first message, asking if anyone had saved the *MISSING* page. He was made aware of the GEOCITIES BACKUP, and sent out the post to all to GET IT WHILE ITS HOT. Well, most of us DID, who could.

Guess what? In two hours time, the GEOCITIES copy of the *.*.*.MIL page VANISHED YET AGAIN.

There are some very disturbing forces going on here. Way too fast, way too deep, and way too powerful to just DISMISS as flukes, or coincidence, or accident, or whatever. Information is being SUPRESSED. Information that could HELP AMERICANS PREPARE FOR WHAT **IS** KNOWN. INFORMATION THAT COULD SAVE LIVES.

You tell me....what is going on behind our backs? Why are the PEOPLE IN POWER covering their OWN FAT BUTTOCKS, while we everday people twist and bend in the WINDS OF FEAR?

I am NOW officially disturbed by the trend as it has PERSONALLY APPEARED to me this past 14 hours. I will NOW work MUCH harder spreading the word and news I find. I will ALSO make DANG SURE that a site of obvious worth gets SAVED for future reference....with backups. (I used to be a computer operations manager for a large company in Dallas...backups were a DAILY and IMPORTANT part of my schedule...and ever more now).

Any future news will appear in this space, with links to backed up items as I create them.

Richard Fleetwood
June 6th, 1999

UPDATE TO THE ABOVE (June 6th, 11:31pm)

P.S. I received an update from my friend, who I'll now tell you is Bruce Beach. He has found, yet again, the missing site at a third location, as well as put a mirror of it up on his own site. I have done the same, putting a mirror of this site at

http://members.aol.com/rafleet/navy/

as duplicated by Bruce. PLEASE read it and pass it around, as it is well worth taking the time to see another aspect of this problem from the perspective of a Naval War College consultant, who is thr original author of the info.

Below is the email as received from Bruce this evening. Read his comments about this situation, and follow the links to OTHER sites that are also discussing this situation of this site. Good luck to all of us, and lets stay in contact.

Richard

Email follows:

Subj: I have the Navy page posted
Date: 6/6/99 2:59:23 PM Central Daylight Time
From: language@webpal.org (Y2K People Finding People)

To: rafleet@gmail.com (List Member)

Y2K People Finding People - http://www.webpal.org/list.htm

Dear Friends,

Some people have sent me most of the Navy War College page, and you can see it at:

http://www.webpal.org/Navy/

I have also heard from the page's author Dr. Barnett

and at the moment he suspects hackers as being the reason for both of the pages locations disappearance. The coincidence (not being a coincidence) but because of their content. However, he does not yet know for sure.

(So, who is hacking? CIA. Some interdepartmental rivalry in electronic warfare?

Where can one go with all this in this world?)

For the present let us believe that it is just plain coincidence.

Here are a couple of other sources

who say that they will also post it.

http://www.tdi.net/ishgooda/y2k/y2ksite.htm http://members.tripod.com/~Sulacco/main.htm

And further discussion about it.

http://www.cantor.com/rel042999.html http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000uim http://www.pond.net/~nodrog/navygraph.html

There is a lot more material out there about this report. Some of the critiques are interesting. But I am afraid that I am giving you information overload at the moment.

Please just read it, and then maybe we can discuss it.

Peace and love,
Bruce Beach
survival@webpal.org



OLD NEWS--Why did I CREATE the SurvivalRing webring?

Below is an excerpt from an email I wrote in reply to a writer from TIME Magazine last week, the first week of December 1998, who emailed asking my help in learning more about how people are preparing for Y2k, ESPECIALLY folks that call themselves 'Survivalist's'.  While the full reply to her came to just over 4 pages printed out (sheesh!), the portion below gives MY personal thoughts regarding survival, survivalists, and being prepared. I think you will see that I do not consider myself the kind of Survivalist that is so often referred to by the media in the news, network dramas, or magazine articles...meaning the camo wearing, eternally gun toting, hardcore camping, living off the land if I HAVE to, holier than thou, right wing extremist, bully.  I am just a normal man,  a nobody really, an everyday joe, working 5 to 6 days a week, supporting BY MYSELF my wife and three kids, and fixing things that break around the house or the car when needed ,and finding time at a moments notice to help coworkers, friends, strangers, and customers in whatever way I can.  I suspect that most visitors, and most of the webring members are just the same.  Read on, and see if you agree with what I have to say, to her, to TIME Magazine, to the world at large, and to YOU, my friends.

"....This is the whole, quite simple, reason I created the SurvivalRing webring over a year ago, now with over 210 sites including SEVERAL international websites. Yes, it does have sites that so-called crusaders such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, or the Militia Watchdog website, list. .

But if you spend time visiting every site in the MY webring, you will NOT find a single one that espouses hate, anarchy, revenge, or racial hatred. PERIOD. I will not allow it, and I will remove any site in the blink of an eye that might change or modify their site to follow these, or similar, themes. I am the OWNER of the ring, and I have total power to allow (or not) any site, or make (or destroy) the webring into anything I choose.

I take this wonderful opportunity VERY SERIOUSLY, to help educate people all over the world by letting sites join the webring that have useful, helpful material, commentary, historical info, or products or books that can be used to increase one's readiness for lifes troubles. There is an eclectic mix of personal, commercial, and product sites that anyone might learn some tidbit that might make their life easier, more fun, or much safer.

Regarding your comment "Not sure if you consider yourself a survivalist per se"....well, as Klinton would put it (spelling intentional!), "it depends on your definition of survivalist". The whole point of human existance, even unto this day, is to JUST SURVIVE all the trials and tribulations that this little floating ball of dirt, mud, and rocks can throw at us. Learning how to do it in any and all ways possible, in the worst or most improbable situations, does NOT a survivalist make. Neither does just owning a gun and waiting for Armageddon or Martial Law or The Second Coming. Or just being a Stark Raving Lunatic (SRL), complaining about black helicopters and alien implants. Every branch of our military teaches in every aspect of every job, how to survive in combat. We then throw these warriors out to the bad guys to see how well they learned their job. Our schools teach us (or should) how to survive in the business world. Our politicians strive to "survive" all the slings and arrows that public work can throw at them. Our poor and sick and criminal in this country just try to "survive" one more hour, or one more day, or....

Me? I just want to be able to support my wife and three kids, bring home a paycheck, and be ready the NEXT time an F5 tornado materializes west of my home, and starts moving east, just like the May 8th tornado that killed and injured so many (including members of my family and church) here in the Birmingham area. Or the next time an Opal-like hurricane moves up from the gulf and blows down a hundred foot tree that DOES fall on my house, instead of missing it by inches in 1995. Or maybe I can be ready again, as I was almost 2 years ago now, the next time a drunk driver broadsides a suburban, causing it to spin and roll over twice, with an elderly lady just going to deliver christmas presents to her grandkids, hanging from her seatbelt (thank god), stopping just feet from me as I delivered my mail on my route. I HAVE to be ready....as we ALL should. So I learn, study, and practice.....AS WE ALL SHOULD.

I have friends who are firemen and policemen and politicians and pharmacists and viet nam vets and .... many other things. We all want a better place and a better life. It starts with US, and it ends with us. It's called Life. We like to play this game, and win. Nobody HAS to get hurt in our world....but they do, and we help them however we can to get better, and play safer. If THAT makes a survivalist, then what 's wrong with being one?...."

Your Ringmaster, for the SurvivalRing,

Richard Fleetwood, December 1998

This instance of having a chance to speak out to more then just my friends and visitors to these pages about things I see hovering on the horizon, or even staring us ALL in the face, has made me realize that yes, there IS more that I can do. AND I will use the above mentioned "WATCHDOG" theme, but this time ONLY for GOOD. What I just placed above will be the first entry into the SurvivalRing WatchDog, a new page NOW available here. The goal of this new area will be to provide assistance or counsel to anyone who is getting taken advantage of by businesses selling to the preparedness industry, false advertising, or outright theft or abuse by individuals, companies, politicians, or our government. And , YES, it will have COMMENTARY just like the above. If you have something to report, email it to me at

EMAIL: rafleet@gmail.com   SUBJECT: WATCHDOG


Richard
Founder - SurvivalRing

Updated May 2001 - © 2001 By Richard A. Fleetwood






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